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Pegg Numbers - Justification
What is a Pegg Number?
This is a totally pointless page, but you've got this far, so you
might as well load it and browse it a bit!.
Pegg Numbers were inspired by reading a thread in
a mathematics newsgroup which discussed the concept of Erdos
Numbers. Paul Erdos was a mathematician who was very prolific in
writing research papers in collaboration with other mathematicians. It
was suggested that anyone in mainstream maths could trace their joint
authorship of papers to Paul Erdos in very few steps. For example if
Smith published a joint paper with Jones, Jones with Brown and Brown
with Erdos, then Smith would have an Erdos number of 3. Erdos himself
having Erdos number 0.
For no very good reason except that I like both Fairport Convention
and Jethro Tull, I thought it would be interesting to try a similar
musical scheme with Dave Pegg. Thus DP has Pegg #0, Simon Nicol and Ian
Anderson #1, Cat Stevens #2 etc. The criteria here being that people
should have played together, either on the same song recording
(album track) or on the same live song - I am rejecting same album,
different song or same stage, different song or
songwriting or producing links.
This page is a tree structure showing the justification for the Pegg
Numbers allocated. Within each branch, things are intended to be in
alphabetical order.
It is obviously incomplete and is likely to be wrong in places.,
especially since it has now reached the stage where I don't know many of
the the musicians mentioned, their names added from internet
discussions, magazine references or CD sleeve notes.
If you know better or can 'promote' a branch, why not let me know at steve@stocton.org
An alphabetical list of musician's Pegg
Numbers is available.
- 0 Dave Pegg
- 1 Don Airey - Jethro Tull #12
- 1 Maartin Allcock - Fairport Convention #17
- 1 Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull #8
- 1 Harvey Andrews - 'Writer of Songs' LP 1972
- 1 Dan Ar Braz - Fairport Convention #14
- 1 Steve Ashley - 'Stroll On' LP 1974
- 1 Barriemore Barlow - Jethro Tull #8
- 1 Martin Barre - Jethro Tull #8
- 1 Ben Bennion - Played with DP at DP's 50th birthday bash
- 1 John Bonham - Led Zeppelin - 'The way of life' band
- 1 Bob Brady - ex Wizzard - Fairport Convention #14
- 1 Gary Brooker - Procul Harum - Cropredy, FC backed 'A Whiter Shade of Pale'
- 1 Joe Broughton - The Albion Band #? - FC 98 tour, Croydon gig, Meet On The Ledge, FC + JB + AH
- 1 Sam Brown - Sang with FC at Cropredy 96
- 2 Jon Carin - Pink Floyd, Pulse tour
- 2 Claudia Fontaine - Pink Floyd, Pulse tour
- 2 David Gilmour - Pink Floyd, SB was Pulse Backing vocals
- 2 Nick Mason - Pink Floyd, Pulse
- 3 Syd Barrett - Pink Floyd
- 3 Damon Hill - Racing driver! - Jools Holland, NM & DH on guitar all played together. Details anyone?
- 3 Jools Holland - JH, NM & Damon Hill all played together. Details anyone?
- 3 Roger Waters - Pink Floyd
- 2 Durga McBroom - Pink Floyd, Pulse tour
- 2 Dick Parry - Pink Floyd, Pulse tour
- 2 Guy Pratt - Pink Floyd, Pulse tour
- 2 Tim Renwick - Pink Floyd, Pulse tour
- 2 Gary Wallis - Pink Floyd, Pulse tour
- 2 Richard Wright - Pink Floyd, Pulse
- 1 Rabbit Bundrick - DP & Fairport and RB on keyboard at Cropredy '98
- 1 Paul Burgess - Jethro Tull #10
- 1 Roger Burridge - Fairport Convention #14
- 1 Lorna Campbell - DP member of Ian Campbell Band
- 1 Ian Campbell - DP member of Ian Campbell Band
- 1 Martin Carthy - 'Meet on the ledge' at Swarbaid 1999
- 1 Eliza Carthy - 'Meet on the ledge' at Swarbaid 1999
- 1 Brian Clarke - DP member of Ian Campbell Band
- 1 Vicky Clayton - Accompanying Fairport Convention (tours and Cropredy)
- 1 Gerry Conway - Jethro Tull #10
- 1 Mark Craney - Jethro Tull #9
- 1 Chris Darrow - 'Chris Darrow' LP 1973
- 1 Sandy Denny - Fairport Convention #11
- 2 Steve Winwood - SW played on 'Rendezvous'
- 3 Eric Clapton - Blind Faith
- 3 Ric Grech - Blind Faith
- 3 Vivian Stanshall - Album 'Steve Winwood', Vacant Chair.
- 3 James Taylor - Sang backing on SW's "Back in the high life'
- 4 Big Bird - JT sings on Sesame Street 'Jelly Man Kelly'
- 4 Cheryl Bentyne - Manhattan Transfer - JT played on Manhattan Transfer's 'Tonin'
- 5 Dizzy Gillespie - Played on Manhattan Transfer's Vocalese
- 5 Jon Hendricks - Sang on Manhattan Transfer's Vocalese
- 6 Count Basie - Count Basie Orchestra recorded "Sing Along With Basie" with JH's old group Lambert, Hendricks, and Ross.
- 5 Chaka Khan - Played on Manhattan Transfer's Tonin
- 5 B. B. King - Played on Manhattan Transfer's Tonin
- 5 Ben. E. King - Played on Manhattan Transfer's Tonin
- 5 Bobby McFerrin - Played on Manhattan Transfer's Vocalese
- 5 Bette Midler - Played on Manhattan Transfer's Tonin
- 5 James Moody - Played on Manhattan Transfer's Vocalese
- 5 John Slate - Jazz saxophonist - Recorded with Manhattan Transfer
- 6 Mark Newman - Jazz pianist recorded with JS. MN is a physicist who has researched "connectivity". See New Scientist 25Nov2000 page 10 or this relevant web page.
- 5 Smokey Robinson - Played on Manhattan Transfer's Tonin
- 5 Frankie Valli - Played on Manhattan Transfer's Tonin
- 4 Karla Bonoff - JT duets with KB on album 'Restless nights'
- 4 David Crosby - JT sings on Crosby,Stills,Nash single 'Chippin away'
- 4 Tim Hauser - Manhattan Transfer - JT played on Manhattan Transfer's 'Tonin'
- 4 Carole King - JT duets on CK's album 'Music'
- 4 Don Maclean - JT backing on DM 'Since I don't have you'
- 4 Mark O'Connor - JT sang lead on MOC's album ' On the mark'
- 4 Graham Nash - JT sings on Crosby,Stills,Nash single 'Chippin away'
- 4 Alan Paul - Manhattan Transfer - JT played on Manhattan Transfer's 'Tonin'
- 4 Janis Siegel - Manhattan Transfer - JT played on Manhattan Transfer's 'Tonin'
- 4 Carly Simon - JT duets on CS's album 'Hotcakes'
- 4 Steven Stills - Sings on Crosby,Stills,Nash single 'Chippin away'
- 4 Livingston Taylor - JT duets on LT's album 'Life is good'
- 4 Kate Taylor - JT duets on KT's album 'Kate Taylor'
- 4 Neil Young - JT plays on 'Harvest'
- 1 Jerry Donahue - Fairport Convention #10
- 1 Nick Drake -'Bryter Layter' LP 1970
- 1 Marc Ellington - 'Rains of Change' LP 1971
- 1 John Evan - Jethro Tull #8
- 1 Tom Farnall - Fairport Convention #8
- 1 Bob Fox - FC support 2000, played one song together.
- 1 Steve Gibbons - The Uglys & Dylan project
- 1 Andy Giddings - Jethro Tull #15
- 1 Mick Greenwood - 'Living Game' LP 1971
- 1 Bryn Haworth - 'Sunny Side Of The Street' LP 1975
- 1 Mike Heron - 'Smiling Men with Bad Reputations' LP 1975
- 1 Roger Hill - The Uglys
- 1 David Hughes - Supported FC '98 - DP played on '50 Yards Of DH'
- 1 Ashley Hutchings - Cropredy Fairport. On speaking to AH, he said he never played with DP on bass, but had played a tambourine on stage with him! (EG FC 98 tour, Croydon, Meet On The Ledge)
- 1 Eddie Jobson - Jethro Tull #9
- 1 Chris Leslie - Fairport Convention #18
- 1 Cathy LeSurf - 'Surface' LP 1985
- 1 Trevor Lucas - Fairport Convention #10
- 1 John Martyn - 'Road To Ruin' LP 1970
- 1 Dave Mattacks - Fairport Convention #5
- 2 Joan Armatrading - DM backing for JA on various tours &video of 'Me Myself'
- 2 Cilla Black - DM recorded on a CB album Details anyone?
- 2 Peter Green - Fleetwood Mac - DM recorded on a PG album Details anyone?
- 2 Tim Harries - Steeleye Span #8 toured with DM as drummer.
- 2 Elton John - DM drummmed on "17-11-70" was 3 via Brian May - FM tribute concert 'Bohemian Rhapsody'
- 3 Tammy Wynette - Sang with EJ on Duets, 'A woman's needs'
- 4 KLF - Kopyright Liberation Front - TW sang on 'Justified and Ancient'
- 3 Luciano Pavarotti - EJ Joint song.
- 4 Frank Sinatra - Duet with LP
- 5 Bono - U2 - Duet with FS
- (Nancy Sinatra via Duane Eddy)
- 2 Bob Johnson - Steeleye Span #8 toured with DM as drummer.
- 2 Paul McCartney - Beatles & Wings - DM backing for PM 'Flowers in the dirt'
- 2 Robbie McIntosh - DM & RM on 'We got Married' on McCartney 'Flowers in the Dirt' album.
- 2 Colin Merrey - (of FC List fame) played in a Perth band which was joined on record by DM & Trevor Lucas.
- 2 Mike Nesmith - DM played backing for MN after leaving Fairport Convention #11
- 2 Dobe Newton - played in a Perth band which was joined on record by DM & Trevor Lucas.
- 2 Paul Simon - DM backing for PS. Any details anyone? was '3' via Art Garfunkel
- 1 Ralph McTell - The GPs
- 1 Simon Nicol - Fairport Convention #5
- 1 David Palmer - Jethro Tull #8
- 1 Matt Pegg - DP &MP duet on 'Level Pegging' (from Cocktail Cowboy) at Cropredy was 2 via Gary Brooker -Procul Harum at Cropredy 95
- 1 Doanne Perry - Jethro Tull #10
- 1 Robert Plant - Led Zeppelin - Cropredy 92 'Girl From the North Country'
- 1 David Rea - Fairport Convention #9
- 1 Spencer Richards - Landlord of DP's local and harmonica player - DP's 'Post 50th Birthday Talking Blues' (DP/Sanders/Leslie/SR)
- 1 Bruce Rowland - Fairport Convention #13
- 1 Ric Sanders - Fairport Convention #17
- 1 Dave Swarbrick - Fairport Convention #5
- 2 Alistair Hulett - 'Saturday Johnny and Jimmy The Rat' duo with DS
- 2 A L Lloyd - DS accompanist on albums: First Person, Leviathan
- 2 Ewan MacColl - Played together on the radio ballads
- 1 Allan Taylor - 'Sometimes' LP 1971
- 1 Linda Thompson - nee Peters - R & LT albums
- 1 Richard Thompson - Fairport Convention #5
- 2 Arran Ahrum - AA &RT both play on Loudon Wainwright III's 'More love songs'
- 2 Martin Brinsford - MB &RT both play on Loudon Wainwright III's 'More love songs'
- 2 Becky Burns - BB &RT both play on Loudon Wainwright III's 'More love songs'
- 2 T-Bone Burnett - RT played on 'Proof thru the night'
- 2 David Byrne - CD 'An Acoustic Evening with DB and RT', St Ann & the Holy Trinity, Brooklyn Heights, March 1992.
- 2 Richard Cheetham - RC &RT both play on Loudon Wainwright III's 'More love songs'
- 2 Christine Collister - CC &RT both play on Loudon Wainwright III's 'More love songs'
- 2 Bob Dylan - Guitar Greats Concert, Seville 1997
- 2 Howard Evans - HE &RT both play on Loudon Wainwright III's 'More love songs'
- 2 Peter Filleul - PF &RT both play on Loudon Wainwright III's 'More love songs'
- 2 John French - 'French, Frith, Kaiser, Thompson'
- 2 Fred Frith - 'French, Frith, Kaiser, Thompson'
- 2 Henry Kaiser - 'French, Frith, Kaiser, Thompson'
- 2 John Kirkpatrick - JK &RT both play on Loudon Wainwright III's 'More love songs'
- 2 Ruari McFarlane - RMF &RT both play on Loudon Wainwright III's 'More love songs'
- 2 Maria McKee - RT played om MM's first solo album.
- 2 Joni Mitchell - JM was on stage with BD during the Rolling Thunder Revue
- 3 Bjork - Live with JM in '98 (see www.jonimitchell.com)
- 2 Maria Muldaur - MM &RT both play on Loudon Wainwright III's 'More love songs'
- 2 Alan Reid - AR &RT both play on Loudon Wainwright III's 'More love songs'
- 2 Linda Taylor - LT &RT both play on Loudon Wainwright III's 'More love songs'
- 2 Danny Thompson - RT band
- 2 Teddy Thompson - son of RT who has toured with RT on acoustic guitar
- 2 Loudon Wainwright III - LW's 'More love songs'
- 1 Steve Tilston - FC support 2001, played one song together.
- 1 Peter Vetesse - Jethro Tull #10
- 1 Paul Warren - Fairport Convention #12
- 1 Norma Waterson - 'Meet on the ledge' at Swarbaid 1999
- 1 Huw Williams - Accompanying Fairport Convention (tour)
- 1 Tony Williams - Accompanying Fairport Convention (tour)
- 1 P J Wright - Dylan project
- 1 Roy Wood - Performed with FC at Cropredy 96
- 1 Gay Woods - 'Time Is Right' LP 1976 Was 2 thru Steeleye Span #1
- 1 Terry Woods - 'Time Is Right' LP 1976
- 1 Pete Zorn - Played with FC (M.O.T.L.) at Cropredy 98
- 1 Anyone who has sung 'Meet on the ledge' at a Fairport concert!
Questions - Can you help?
If you know of decent links for biographies of the musicians listed
here, please email me with the details.
Can you answer any of the italic questions embedded above? (For Paul
Simon, Stephane Grapelli.
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